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George Lilley's avatar

Thanks for taking the time to critique Hattie's work, given Hattie's influence this is really important.

Hattie argued to move from "What Works" to "What works Best".

"The major message is that we need a barometer of what works best..." (preface)

"One aim of this book is to develop an explanatory story about the key influences on student learning - it is certainly not to build another 'what works' recipe." (p. 6)

"When teachers claim that they are having a positive effect on achievement or when a policy improves achievement, this is almost always a trivial claim: Virtually everything works. One only needs a pulse and we can improve achievement." (p. 16)

"Instead of asking 'What works?' we should be asking 'What works best?'" (p. 18)

Hattie cleverly argued the Effect Size determines what works best, but the significant critique of his work now seriously questions that.

I thought Slavin's critique showing Hattie mixed up +ve and -ve effect sizes was interesting. Hagemeister (2020) and also Sundar & Agarwal (2021) have shown this mistake in the Class Size category. Also, in - Reducing Disruptive Behavior, 1 of the 3 studies Hattie reports has a huge negative effect size - How can it be that reducing disruptive behavior, decreases achievement by a lot?

As a result of this critique, as you say Hattie has changed his emphasis to, "the Story".

When Ollie Lovell questioned him about all the critiques of his method, Hattie replied, "It’s not the numbers it’s the story... that’s why this will keep me in business to keep telling the story."

Given Hattie's significant influence, he should be challenged more about this change in narrative as it means his claims in Visible Learning are wrong and misleading.

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Ahernahern's avatar

The more educational research one reads & enacts, just as others ignore it, and do what they ‘feel’ works. The more one reads books as at the same time one reads the class in front of you. The more you realise that reading writing about teaching very often makes little difference. When you find yourself back at square one. It’s like the progress in philosophy over the ages. None

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